MySobaVPG - Create Your Own Pet Site!

[revopets]

No HTML or PHP Knowledge Needed!
Comes with FREE Hosting, with NO ads!
Quality Object oriented PHP Scripts.
Upgradable Later On!

Starting at Just $11.99!
Anytime I upgrade the basic scripts, you get these upgrades for FREE!

[Tregg]

I have a question. What if we want to make most of it on our own, but have some of the scripts you provide too? Do we have 100% ownership of the stuff on the site?

>.> I need legal stuff here.

[revopets]

I have a question. What if we want to make most of it on our own, but have some of the scripts you provide too? Do we have 100% ownership of the stuff on the site?

>.> I need legal stuff here.

If you add additional scripts that do not require ANY of the files from MySobaVPG, then you may claim these as your own. However, you may NOT remove the copyright notice from the bottom of ANY pages unless they do not rely on MySobaVPG. You may not attempt to sell MySobaVPG, upgrades requiring parts of MySobaVPG, or modified MySobaVPG scripts.

Hope that helped. Please note that you'll receive the full legal information upon purchase.

[Tregg]

Can we customize them?

[revopets]

Can we customize them?

Yes, and you may purchase upgrades directly from us- There are plenty available, in all categories ranging from scripts to art! We'll even code you something custom!

[Haywire]

I have to admit, this did sound too good to be true. After looking at the site, many "quotes" from kronik scripts are shown, how wonderful. Next off, we cannot re-sell the scripts... Well, that is going to be merely impossible to stop, unless you invest into tracking software, and a licensing protocol. If someone is buying rights to use/own the scripts, they have the right, that if they cannot afford to run the site (if it gets popular) that they could sell it.

The only way I would invest into something like this, is if it had a full-fletched installation script, a templating system, an API, database and user classes, a large function library, security implementation, complete and detailed user and site logging, clean and tidy scripts making things easy to customize and the right to NOT show any copyright information regarding the creator, hence, it is PAID software!!

I am not bashing you, not trying to make you feel "down", I am just giving you some pointers, so you could actually make some money. You aren't going to make any money selling software, that you could just go somewhere else and get similar, more-completed software for free! So complete a full-fletched installation system, a CMS with WYSIWYG protocols, and a PHP Customization API, which will in the long run, make things better. Invest some money.

[Ole]

I have to admit, this did sound too good to be true. After looking at the site, many "quotes" from kronik scripts are shown, how wonderful. Next off, we cannot re-sell the scripts... Well, that is going to be merely impossible to stop, unless you invest into tracking software, and a licensing protocol. If someone is buying rights to use/own the scripts, they have the right, that if they cannot afford to run the site (if it gets popular) that they could sell it.

The only way I would invest into something like this, is if it had a full-fletched installation script, a templating system, an API, database and user classes, a large function library, security implementation, complete and detailed user and site logging, clean and tidy scripts making things easy to customize and the right to NOT show any copyright information regarding the creator, hence, it is PAID software!!

I am not bashing you, not trying to make you feel "down", I am just giving you some pointers, so you could actually make some money. You aren't going to make any money selling software, that you could just go somewhere else and get similar, more-completed software for free! So complete a full-fletched installation system, a CMS with WYSIWYG protocols, and a PHP Customization API, which will in the long run, make things better. Invest some money.

Good luck trying to find that for $10.

[Sagashiteru]

the way I see it is that people who are buying this script aren't getting that much for it considering that you're selling a virtualpetsite script which doesn't have enough features if you look at the order page.

I must say good luck with this, take ephene's advise to make it a much more proffesional.

[fluff]

Okay....sounded good and I ordered but that was hours ago and I wrote you too and have NOT recieved my order or a response from you! Please let me have what I PAID for! Thanks.

[Thunderangel]

I tried your demo but it needs a lot of work. Would you take money orders?

[subzero]

Another cheap site looking to make a bit of extra cash - poor.

[revopets]

Okay....sounded good and I ordered but that was hours ago and I wrote you too and have NOT recieved my order or a response from you! Please let me have what I PAID for! Thanks.

Email or PM me your pet site name, and/or paypal email.

[Brae]

Revo, you do know it is illegal to sell the useage of kronik scripts, because thats all your producing, if not post a section of the code that is fully functionable and I'll query it:)

[Haywire]

Kronik was released under the GNU/General Public License, stating that all usage must state somewhere on the page, that the software was released under such license. The re-sale, or sale of modifications for profit, or at benefit of you, the seller, will result in legal actions, up to the point of termination of your rights to use such software, aswell as the order of refunds to all of your customers.

The modification of such software, to repair any glitches, and earn profit off of such "Repaired" software, is aswell illegal, and will result in the termination of your rights, and the refund of all customers.

This includes traces of such work, including but not limited to functions, queries, database structures, syntax, etc. If requested by the creator of Kronik and it's affiliates, you are required to give up such software for investigation.

Software released under the General Public License is not to be sold or modified for profit, in any way! Remember, it's free!

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With the sale of software on a large-scale, you are required to include the following:

Licensing Information
Tutorials and Information on how to modify the content.
An installation script, or full descriptive instructions on how to install the software.
A software agreement (The terms of use for the software)
Invoices and Recipts for such software, including a Buisness License to operate online.
You must pay taxes on each and every sale.

You must keep record of every sale, including the address and contact information of the customer who purchased the software, a control center where if the customer loses the software, they can login and retreive it at any time, a contact phone number and email address for support with the software and that the software is completely developed by you, with no traces of work from other software.

Unless you are following those requirements I reccomend that you shut down your buisness, or obide by the above. I also reccomend if you are accepting purchases via. Paypal, you initiate a Paypal Instant Payment Notification, allowing users access to their control panel to download such software immediately after purchase. By law if the software is not received after 48 hours of payment recipt, you are required to give a full refund, including any fees that the customer may have paid to receive the software. Please be aware, if you plan on running a buisness, do your homework!

[revopets]

Kronik was released under the GNU/General Public License, stating that all usage must state somewhere on the page, that the software was released under such license. The re-sale, or sale of modifications for profit, or at benefit of you, the seller, will result in legal actions, up to the point of termination of your rights to use such software, aswell as the order of refunds to all of your customers.

The modification of such software, to repair any glitches, and earn profit off of such "Repaired" software, is aswell illegal, and will result in the termination of your rights, and the refund of all customers.

This includes traces of such work, including but not limited to functions, queries, database structures, syntax, etc. If requested by the creator of Kronik and it's affiliates, you are required to give up such software for investigation.

Software released under the General Public License is not to be sold or modified for profit, in any way! Remember, it's free!

-----------------------------

With the sale of software on a large-scale, you are required to include the following:

Licensing Information
Tutorials and Information on how to modify the content.
An installation script, or full descriptive instructions on how to install the software.
A software agreement (The terms of use for the software)
Invoices and Recipts for such software, including a Buisness License to operate online.
You must pay taxes on each and every sale.

You must keep record of every sale, including the address and contact information of the customer who purchased the software, a control center where if the customer loses the software, they can login and retreive it at any time, a contact phone number and email address for support with the software and that the software is completely developed by you, with no traces of work from other software.

Unless you are following those requirements I reccomend that you shut down your buisness, or obide by the above. I also reccomend if you are accepting purchases via. Paypal, you initiate a Paypal Instant Payment Notification, allowing users access to their control panel to download such software immediately after purchase. By law if the software is not received after 48 hours of payment recipt, you are required to give a full refund, including any fees that the customer may have paid to receive the software. Please be aware, if you plan on running a buisness, do your homework!

I've done my homework, thanks. The scripts don't have a trace of Kronic. If Jordan thinks they do, he can feel free to choose a court date, otherwise stay out of it.

It is none of your business, either way.

[revopets]

Revo, you do know it is illegal to sell the useage of kronik scripts, because thats all your producing, if not post a section of the code that is fully functionable and I'll query it:)

That's a statement, so I assume that must mean you have "facts", huh? I'd love to see you in court. :)

[Brae]

Why would I take you to court you idiot?

I'm not the one thats complaining, I just feel sorry for whoever that purchases your crappy script when they could just download kronik of me for free lmao.

And it is our business as you are targetting it to our community, especially when haywire is a admin here:), and all of these users belong to this community. If you don't like our critismic then your welcome to go sell your kronik scripts somewhere else and try to earn a good intake.

Now show us the snippet of code:) I'm still waiting buddy.

[OwlManAtt]

After looking at the site, many "quotes" from kronik scripts are shown,
I lol'd at the idea of anyone trying to build a business based off of that trashy codebase.

I suppose some things never die, but having that as my little bit of immortality is just kind of...sad.

Also, Haywire, before you try to tell someone what the terms of the GPL are, please read the license. It expressely *allows* modification and redistribution (even for-profit redistribution) of sourcecode. The FSF has a very nice (http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-faq.html) FAQ on the subject of the GPL.

[subzero]

Cheap crappy scripts, why would anyone in the right mind even pay for that rubbish?

[revopets]

Why would I take you to court you idiot?

I'm not the one thats complaining, I just feel sorry for whoever that purchases your crappy script when they could just download kronik of me for free lmao.

And it is our business as you are targetting it to our community, especially when haywire is a admin here:), and all of these users belong to this community. If you don't like our critismic then your welcome to go sell your kronik scripts somewhere else and try to earn a good intake.

Now show us the snippet of code:) I'm still waiting buddy.

Pengu, you're not stealing ANY of my code. Haven't you stolen enough code yet?

[redfan1999]

I lol'd at the idea of anyone trying to build a business based off of that trashy codebase.

I suppose some things never die, but having that as my little bit of immortality is just kind of...sad.

Also, Haywire, before you try to tell someone what the terms of the GPL are, please read the license. It expressely *allows* modification and redistribution (even for-profit redistribution) of sourcecode. The FSF has a very nice (http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-faq.html) FAQ on the subject of the GPL.


Why do you ignor the guy when he has just proven the rubbish you lot have been going on about GLP for months is wrong, and you can actually sell them.



I just found out that a company has a copy of a GPL'ed program, and it costs money to get it. Aren't they violating the GPL by not making it available on the Internet?
No. The GPL does not require anyone to use the Internet for distribution. It also does not require anyone in particular to redistribute the program. And (outside of one special case), even if someone does decide to redistribute the program sometimes, the GPL doesn't say he has to distribute a copy to you in particular, or any other person in particular.

What the GPL requires is that he must have the freedom to distribute a copy to you if he wishes to. Once the copyright holder does distribute a copy program to someone, that someone can then redistribute the program to you, or to anyone else, as he sees fit.

[Brae]

Because I'd like him to state it on his website that he hasn't built these scripts himself, which he claims to have done.

I'd also like users to know that they can just download this for free:), without paying for any of it.

[cpvr]

How come none of the newest sites work?

[revopets]

Because I'd like him to state it on his website that he hasn't built these scripts himself, which he claims to have done.

I'd also like users to know that they can just download this for free:), without paying for any of it.

Ok, fine.

I claim under penalty of purgury 100% ownership of the MySoba scripts, that NO PART of these scripts are under ANY Public License (GNU or otherwise), and ALL copyrights belong to ME.

If anyone really thinks they are kronic, then I'd be glad to see you in court.

How come none of the newest sites work?

Not yet uploaded/still in progress.

[sinthuxgx]

I know these are not kronik. I've seen the code compared to the kronik code, and it's WAY different. The site might be relatively basic, but it's about 10x as secure than kronik. I believe they offer free/paid upgrades, so when the site adds new features (ie. battledome) then you automatically get them. Which I'm sure he's working on new scripts anyway. Considering it's only $11, that's a pretty good deal.

[Youma Muir]

I am interested in this offer, I have emailed the owner, but have not gotten a reply, so i am holding off on my order till I get one.

[fluff]

Where is my site??? I have been waiting for over a month and still no site! You told me that it would be ready shortly but that was over 2 weeks ago! I write you but get no answer! I paid for this site and would like it sometime soon! Please reply to my messages.

[nightpup]

bought, STILL HAVE NOT RECEIVED.