New Neopets Updates - Premium Accounts

[Onyx]

Does anyone know for SURE if you lose your 5th pet after you cancel premium? If so I'd certainly not pay. And if you only get a 5th pet on ONE account... that just doesn't seem enough to me.

[que]

@Onyx- yes, you lose it.

[Onyx]

Ah yeah that's really lame then. I was considering getting premium if the pet was permanent, but not if you lose it after discontinuing premium. Not worth it.

[vanillaeclair]

>replaced pet central with premium

For the love of god Neo..

[Roconza]

I don't think it's worth the fth pet it if you have to pay a monthly fee just to keep your pet. Most other sites I can buy a pet slot key and pay only a one time fee to get extra pets. I also notice they omit this fact from the main membership signup page.

It's like "YOU GET TO ADOPT A EXTRA SHINY NEW PET! Hooooowever you have to keep buying membership or we will take it away from you.. KTHANKS"

$69.95 for a year seems a bit steep even for a year and to add that up with neopets's habit of freezing people for the slightest thing I'd would not risk losing that amount of money. I mean what would happen if a person spent the $70 and got frozen? They would make off with your money and there is nothing could be done about it.

[cpvr]

>replaced pet central with premium

For the love of god Neo..

They're doing exactly what Webkins is doing, kinda.
They know their user base will spend the money for extra things, its ridiculous, but hey, if you look at it through a business perspective, you could see that Neopets is just jumping on the feature that other pet sites do.

Time to check some fansites for some reactions http://www.tdnforums.com/index.php?/...20#entry604548

I swore I would never pay for Neopets however I have just found myself paying for the 4 month subscription! *doh* in the UK it works out at just over £16 to try it out which is cheaper than my xbox subscription so lets see how it goes!

Not paying for Premium is the same reason why I stopped playing WoW after 6 years. Why pay so much for something that you can do for free? (I gave up WoW for Diablo III )
Sure, I would love to have a fifth pet slot, but I'll live! I don't use side accounts, it's not my thing. I can have four pets. I'm not greedy. And extra money every month? Who needs that? I make just plenty every day.

I just think Premium shouldn't cost so much. Le sigh :/

WANT! Going to go get a pre-paid credit card now!

$69.95 for a year? Uh - that's a bit much. 4 months looks more affordable for me right now. I guess I could keep paying every 4 months if I want to keep Azarale on my main, um, how will I know when my membership expires?

Looks like a lot of users are also peeved about this.

I don't think it's worth the fth pet it if you have to pay a monthly fee just to keep your pet. Most other sites I can buy a pet slot key and pay only a one time fee to get extra pets. I also notice they omit this fact from the main membership signup page.

It's like "YOU GET TO ADOPT A EXTRA SHINY NEW PET! Hooooowever you have to keep buying membership or we will take it away from you.. KTHANKS"

$69.95 for a year seems a bit steep even for a year and to add that up with neopets's habit of freezing people for the slightest thing I'd would not risk losing that amount of money. I mean what would happen if a person spent the $70 and got frozen? They would make off with your money and there is nothing could be done about it.

That's exactly why I would never pay for it because they don't really protect user's accounts. So let's say you bought premium, and someone hacked you, or cracked your password, you just wasted money for no reason, unless you file a charge back on them. Allowing paypal to take care of it.

[Varga]

Re: 5th pet:

Snarkie posted:

If your service ends, you go down to four slots and must move any one of your five Neopets before you can continue on the site. You can move it one of two ways:

- Transfer: Send it (probably to a side ) and then you can play the site again once the transfer is accepted.

- Abandon: Choose one to go and then continue playing the site immediately. IT DOESN'T GO TO THE POUND RIGHT AWAY! It hangs out in a cushy limbo for 90 days first, just in case you're taking a break for whatever reason and need time to renew and reclaim it. After 90 days, it goes into the Pound for anyone to adopt.

[Pepper-Head]

Well, Viacom did buy Neopets for $160 million bucks, so who knows if they're generated that much income, and more since they bought it. It's quite obvious that Neopets is all about their revenue - because don't they already have Neocash, sponsored games, and various ads on the site?

That is a lot :0
But I'm pretty confident that they've made that much. I think they're pretty greedy about it too... they want more *EVERY* plot or event that comes up, there's *ALWAYS* a tie to Neocash. VIP passes, special treasure chests or Easter eggs that can only be opened with a Neocash item.. Shoot, they even have a Faerie quest just for Neocash stuff! (How lame is that? :/ ) Plus there's a lot of games that revolve around neocash. Wonderclaw, some Corridor thing, and others (Habitarium has some sweet items and paintbrushes for P3s but guess what? Neocash items.)
But that's not the only thing they're making money from. Ads, too, like you said. Does anyone know how much advertisers will pay for ads on Neopets? (And those sponsor games?)

One last thing that ticks me off is how good Neo is with immediate gratification x'D They'll give you some free neocash randomly, like just now they gave everyone who participates in the Altador Cup 100 free Neocash. But guess what? There's maybe only 5 (really bad) items that are 100 or less. Everything else is 150 and up. Or even 125.
Then they wave this premium junk (ONLY $3.95! : DThat's just the first month. ) and scream about the 5th pet slot, which is something users have been wanting for a long time. I wonder how many people jumped and got this? X'D I will certainly be pound surfing more after the 1st month is up hehe.

[cpvr]

@Pepper-Head

Does anyone know how much advertisers will pay for ads on Neopets? (And those sponsor games?)

I don't know, but they're more than likely with CPM ad companies: http://www.bitdoze.com/make-money-on...-with-cpm-ads/

Conclusions
Making money with CPM ads is for sites that have a lot of visitors, I was able to earn 0.49$ for 5.000 impressions with Technorati Media. I don’t exactly know how much are other networks paying but I can tell you that I am not very happy with how much I received from Technorati Media. For now, I will continue keeping the ad, just until I find a better alternative.

So thus, Neopets receives a ton of page views a day, so they could be making thousands a day from the ads itself. And I wouldn't know how much they sponsored games cost.

Plus there's a lot of games that revolve around neocash. Wonderclaw, some Corridor thing, and others (Habitarium has some sweet items and paintbrushes for P3s but guess what? Neocash items.)

Sounds like they're milking the game - and what do those paintbrushers look like?

One last thing that ticks me off is how good Neo is with immediate gratification x'D They'll give you some free neocash randomly, like just now they gave everyone who participates in the Altador Cup 100 free Neocash.

Marapets does the same thing - especially for active members. I've never paid for an account upgrade in my life and have $6 bucks worth of credit there.

Here's more information http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neopets

Prior to the arrival of the NC Mall, it contributed to 60% of the revenue from the site[25] with paying Fortune 1000 companies including Disney, General Mills, and McDonald's.[34]

Viacom produces a range of merchandise, including stickers, books, cereals, Neocash cards, and video games, sold at mainstream outlets and online retailers. Each item has a code which can be redeemed at the site for an in-game reward. Neopets had planned to "bring the online and offline worlds together in ways that have never been done before".[50] An investment banker at Allen & Company in New York said Neopets was the only online media he had seen "that might have the ability to capture market share in the offline world".[25] Neopets signed a licensing deal with Viacom Consumer Products in 2001 to get the right developers and publishers for their offline content.[51] A deal with Thinkway Toys produced the first merchandise brought to an international market.[52] Offline products expanded in 2005 with film and video game deals.[25] In February 2008, offline products were further expanded when it was announced that Jakks Pacific and Enterplay would produce a new line of merchandise, including new trading cards, to tie into Key Quest.[32]

Neopets: The Official Magazine was a bi-monthly magazine released in September 2003[56] and sold by subscription and in stores. In 2008, it was replaced by the new magazine Beckett Plushie Pals, which would still include some Neopets news in addition to news related to other companies' products.
Neopets signed a deal with Warner Bros. Pictures in March 2005 to produce films. The first film was to be written by Rob Lieber and produced by Dylan Sellers and John A. Davis,[57] but the project was shelved in early 2008.
In November 2005, Sony Computer Entertainment America Inc. released Neopets: The Darkest Faerie, for the PlayStation 2. A second game, Neopets: Petpet Adventures: The Wand of Wishing, was released March 14, 2006 for the PlayStation Portable.

Neopets has various sources of revenue - not just the neocash and the "ads"

[Pepper-Head]

@cpvr
I remember all of the toys! They had little figures, plushies (my favorite, I have quite a few!), and McDonald's toys (the last thing they did similar was with Burger King a while back).

The most money they've ever gotten out of me was with the plushies P: But as far as I know - they stopped doing that? I can't find them in Target anymore, or online (except ebay and such).

As for the Habitarium - http://www.neopets.com/~gupppppppy#main
That has all of the neocash decorations and how the inks look on everything. There's a Chocolate, Faerie, Pirate, and Snow. I also forgot to mention that they have some different backgrounds to buy.


(They also have pet-themed things too)

It's all a lot more interesting than the boring things they have now, although you can buy RBYG ink for buildings with resources.