Off-site chat rooms

[Citadel]

I find sites that do this quite sickening and off putting. It's people maliacious nature but I am saddened by the staffs partaking in this. If I had staff that was being accused of something then I wouldn't even touch them with the staff barge pole! It's bound to find trouble. But the idea of Jak and it makes me get the geebies! He is one scary bloke if you ask me.

Can Icepets not ban IP's and I would think its better for the chat to be attached to the site or arguments and harrassment may run over into the site and impersonating is often. Otherwise bad reputations are going to spring up...

[Lolly]

The users you are referring are Jak under different identities.
I can assure you all the accounts were well looked into before banned. We're very aware of how Jak talks and acts now.
We're taking huge measures to get him off the site once a for all. He was banned in November and still won't leave it alone.
It's not only for our sake; but his too. It's seriously not healthy.. ><

We have blocked his IP, but it doesn't stop him.
It's pretty easy to reset a router.. :/

The off-site chat has nothing to do with IcePets.
The one user causing the harassment is Jak.

Check the Jak Maggai thread for reference. : P

[vplspride]

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[Velxeor]

Note: I skimmed this thread so a few things I say might've been mentioned already.

People shouldn't get in trouble on-site for crap they say on off-site chat rooms (off-site in general) unless it's something involving hacking the site or whatever shit.

I've seen a site owner say screen shots aren't good evidence because they can be edited but one person got in trouble with them because of a screenshot taken from a Xat chat.

I like private chats more because not everyone can just join. They keep out unwanted people. However, this sometimes ends up with crazyass rumors started by people who don't have access to the chat(conspiracy theories wtf lol). With that being said, people misinterpret the chats thinking it's only limited to friends so they don't bother even messaging anyone if they can join.

Public chats ends up as a whole shitfest more often than not. There's always off-site drama caused because the site's rules don't govern over it. It can start petty, unwanted drama and be brought on-site by a small handful of people.

[Michi]

I'm not a part of icepets, but I witness some of the stuff Jak did myself even to the point of getting harassing emails. Its hard to get the ISP for Jak because he keeps using a phishing site to hide his ip and whatnot. When researching into all his ips he was even on here with it was jumping around all over the UK.

And Vel I know what you are talking about and that was wrong. Though I think that warning was retracted after more proof from what I remember. That whole drama was idiotic and more.

[WikiJason]

@Better

I did not read this whole topic and frankly I do not think I need to. Off-Site chats are not places of official site business and thus they should not take action upon situations that derive from an outside source (in this case a situation that was presented outside of www.icepets.com). I was given moderator powers by Joy to ensure that a disruptive environment was not formed on a certain chat group. When a user comes in and forms a disruptive environment it is my job to instill my judgement. I banned the person because they were creating one. They were not happy with my choice and they brought the problems to IcePets. On Icepets I am not a mod or staff, to be quite honest I am barely a frequent player. In this particular situation you that are pointing out the person had sent me various PMs harassing me about the situation saying I was abusing my powers as staff and that I should be banned from IcePets.

While I understand where you are coming from, a website can tell it's users not to form chat groups but it does not mean users will listen, In which case they cannot really do anything about it. The same goes for Help Sites. While I understand your worries, if users do not click with the members of a certain chat group it is best advised to ether start their own group or stay on-site where official IP staff can better moderate a situation.

(sorry if anyone already said this I did not read past the first post)

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[cpvr]

You need to report him to his ISP. They will pull his service if he is continuing to harrass and hack into sites. You just need to get your documentation together and then do a an IP search for his ISP ... then report him to the Abuse Department listed on his IP provider.

That's really all you can really do. You can't just keep mentioning the user and talking about him because its obvious that's what he wants. Just send off an email to his ISP - which you can usually get when you look up his IP, and tell them everything that has been going on with said user.

And on the note of "off-site chat rooms", I don't recommend using them. I'd only recommend chatting on-site with the messaging and forums features. Because the staff can't really moderate the off-site chat rooms, so there could be a chance of users bullying one another, and such, making it not so comfortable for other users(off site chat room).

[Better]

It was reassuring to hear what everyone thinks, especially some members of IcePets and staff.

[cpvr]

It was reassuring to hear what everyone thinks, especially some members of IcePets and staff.

Yup, when in doubt, just ask. I remember when users used to cheat on flash games at Zetapets, we would just send an email off to their ISP and they took care of the rest. ISP's won't act upon anything unless they receive an email in their abuse department.