Welcome to the Virtual Pet List Community

Wanting to join the rest of our members? Feel free to sign up today. It is completely free and one of the most positive communities on the web! Come and join the fun!

Join VPL Today!
  1. Virtual Pets

    Welcome to the Virtual Pet list forum!

    We're a Virtual Pets and Sim Games Community. We have a lot of Virtual Pet Sites Owners and Sim Games Owners that frequently visit, along with Artists, Writers and Programmers that come here looking for work and games to work for. Our Artists sell art in our Art Marketplace and Programmers are allowed to sell scripts in the Programming Marketplace. We've been opened since 2011 and since then we've grown to well over 212k posts and almost 5k members. What are you waiting for, why don't you join today?

    Our List of Virtual Pet Sites has a lot of Sim Games listed as well. You are more than welcome to check out our directory of sites and find a new game to play. If you're still curious about a game to play, you can check out some of our Game Reviews and Interviews with Coders, Artists, Writers and Game Owners of the industry.
  2. Have you read and commented on any of our Interviews or Reviews yet?
    Are you ready for the return of Teripets?
    Paladore - Boopets - Icepets
    Virtual Pet Directory
    join mycena cave!

Is it worth creating a petsite anymore

Discussion in 'Virtual Pet Information' started by Ollie, Jul 21, 2012.

  1. Ollie
    Offline

    Ollie VPL Supporter VPL Supporter VPL Member

    Joined:
    Mar 6, 2011
    Messages:
    476
    Likes Received:
    32
    Trophy Points:
    28
    On both a financial and timescale perspective.. is it really worth doing it anymore?

    We see many sites coming out, and great, I love them just as much as the next person.. But 9 months down the line the buzz goes. (aside from the obvious big sites.)
    But many GOOD and established - Ichumon, Paladore, Misticpets, Icepets as of looking right now average 30-40 users online.

    So is it worth creating a petsite anymore? or will they always end up small?
    join misticpets, support vpl
  2. kami
    Offline

    kami Moderator Moderator

    Joined:
    Jan 21, 2011
    Messages:
    3,303
    Likes Received:
    413
    Trophy Points:
    83
    Location:
    Mars
    Re: Is it worth creating a petsite anymore.

    Financially, making a petsite is a terrible idea. These things are not built to make money unless you magically get HUGE. If people want to make a site, it should be motivated by passion rather than by dollar signs. If they do that, then it wouldn't matter how many users are on their site as long as they enjoy it.
    Corzeir likes this.
  3. cpvr
    Offline

    cpvr Owner and Founder Administrator

    Joined:
    Jan 20, 2011
    Messages:
    28,802
    Likes Received:
    1,244
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Houston, Texas
    Re: Is it worth creating a petsite anymore.

    This, and it takes money to make money anyways. Passion for running a pet site takes you a lot further than just wanting to create one for the love of money.
    Corzeir likes this.
  4. Ajax
    Offline

    Ajax Mod & Artist | Need Help? Moderator Approved Artist

    Joined:
    Jan 22, 2011
    Messages:
    4,670
    Likes Received:
    172
    Trophy Points:
    73
    Yea the online part is down bc most of us were younger kids when vps were big and we enjoyed then more, now we are older, have jobs, families, etc. and this new generation doesn't care as much.
  5. SpunkiSpirou
    Offline

    SpunkiSpirou Banned Pet Game Owner Banned

    Joined:
    Apr 6, 2012
    Messages:
    4,061
    Likes Received:
    144
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Location:
    North Yorkshire
    Re: Is it worth creating a petsite anymore.

    I'm only creating mine because a demon told me to.
    Hituro and Corzeir like this.
  6. Ajax
    Offline

    Ajax Mod & Artist | Need Help? Moderator Approved Artist

    Joined:
    Jan 22, 2011
    Messages:
    4,670
    Likes Received:
    172
    Trophy Points:
    73
    Lmao well good luck with that.
    Tyler likes this.
  7. cpvr
    Offline

    cpvr Owner and Founder Administrator

    Joined:
    Jan 20, 2011
    Messages:
    28,802
    Likes Received:
    1,244
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Houston, Texas
    Re: Is it worth creating a petsite anymore.

    Ya, the new generation is playing mobile apps and such. I'd love to see a pet site make an app on the phone where you can do quests, message users, be involved on the forums, etc.
  8. SpunkiSpirou
    Offline

    SpunkiSpirou Banned Pet Game Owner Banned

    Joined:
    Apr 6, 2012
    Messages:
    4,061
    Likes Received:
    144
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Location:
    North Yorkshire
    Re: Is it worth creating a petsite anymore.

    He told me to write a book and send it to a publisher where it would be accepted and printed. Look how that turned out :p
  9. Ajax
    Offline

    Ajax Mod & Artist | Need Help? Moderator Approved Artist

    Joined:
    Jan 22, 2011
    Messages:
    4,670
    Likes Received:
    172
    Trophy Points:
    73
    It was published lol?
  10. SpunkiSpirou
    Offline

    SpunkiSpirou Banned Pet Game Owner Banned

    Joined:
    Apr 6, 2012
    Messages:
    4,061
    Likes Received:
    144
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Location:
    North Yorkshire
    Re: Is it worth creating a petsite anymore.

    Yup, due out soon.
  11. sunandshadow
    Offline

    sunandshadow Approved Artist Approved Artist VPL Supporter VPL Member

    Joined:
    Sep 9, 2011
    Messages:
    732
    Likes Received:
    71
    Trophy Points:
    38
    Re: Is it worth creating a petsite anymore.

    I personally wish more people would make single player PC pet games, not sites.
  12. Lyrakish
    Offline

    Lyrakish Member VPL Member

    Joined:
    Feb 29, 2012
    Messages:
    514
    Likes Received:
    42
    Trophy Points:
    28
    Re: Is it worth creating a petsite anymore.

    If I managed to make a site I'd try and do a mobile app and be very into posting on FB, Tumblr whatnot. But I lack the funds and I feel rather intimidated by other sites because they are so so good! I can't art or code, just write, so I'd feel lazy.

    I honestly want to own a site but...maybe if I won millions upon millions I'd buy Aywas from Slash and make Eri a partial partner. Because Slash has faded so much now.
  13. Ajax
    Offline

    Ajax Mod & Artist | Need Help? Moderator Approved Artist

    Joined:
    Jan 22, 2011
    Messages:
    4,670
    Likes Received:
    172
    Trophy Points:
    73
    You will get there soon, and I did hear about Slash.
  14. cpvr
    Offline

    cpvr Owner and Founder Administrator

    Joined:
    Jan 20, 2011
    Messages:
    28,802
    Likes Received:
    1,244
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Houston, Texas
    Re: Is it worth creating a petsite anymore.

    Slash still works in the background though. She pays the staff. Aywas is doing well currently though, it would be even better if Slash returned fully and updated the site with Eri all the time. Aywas was and is still Slash's dream.
  15. Joy
    Offline

    Joy Member VPL Member

    Joined:
    Jan 21, 2011
    Messages:
    2,806
    Likes Received:
    184
    Trophy Points:
    63
    Location:
    US
    Re: Is it worth creating a petsite anymore.

    Literally all of the sites you mentioned have had issues with owners and staff. That's why people leave. Those issues interfered with professional responsibilities and the sites demands. You don't see Subeta's Staff getting in the middle of drama; they tend to it. But I think this is one of many problems with petsites. Regardless of what you may think, Icepets, Paladore and Ichumon aren't even great sites. Paladore was doing great until Ole let that drama interfere with his goals.

    Simply put, focus on building your site and things will do great.

    Losing members is inevitable; but you can build the site to the point where you can have a larger inflow of active members rather than those who get bored and leave.

    ---Edit---

    Do I think creating a petsite is worth it?
    Only the creator can truly know whether it is or it isn't. Know what you're getting into, know your duties as site owner, know every ounce and every inch of your plans and responsibilities /prior/ to the beginning of that site. Maybe it'll be great, or maybe it'll be a short lived thrill ride... that's entirely up to you.
    Last edited: Jul 21, 2012
    Velxeor, Ardy, Ajax and 1 other person like this.
  16. Ajax
    Offline

    Ajax Mod & Artist | Need Help? Moderator Approved Artist

    Joined:
    Jan 22, 2011
    Messages:
    4,670
    Likes Received:
    172
    Trophy Points:
    73
    Yep, this is very true. A great site isn't determined by how many members you have or how cool the site looks, It's how owners and staff treat the users and how the users treat each other. No site will be perfect, but when everyone is in sync together and can interact peacefully it can go very far. When you start caring more about numbers than members you have a problem.
  17. Ollie
    Offline

    Ollie VPL Supporter VPL Supporter VPL Member

    Joined:
    Mar 6, 2011
    Messages:
    476
    Likes Received:
    32
    Trophy Points:
    28
    Re: Is it worth creating a petsite anymore.

    @Joy

    Surely sites can make turn arounds though? Personally I know since Ichumon is ran very well now that @rontifu runs the majority of the site.

    And also @Lee is doing a brilliant job with Paladore.
    Last edited by a moderator: Oct 16, 2013
  18. Lyrakish
    Offline

    Lyrakish Member VPL Member

    Joined:
    Feb 29, 2012
    Messages:
    514
    Likes Received:
    42
    Trophy Points:
    28
    Re: Is it worth creating a petsite anymore.

    Slash pays taxes and stuff. I just wish Eri would take over completely and get some female NPC's in and replace the Gary Stu ones we have now.
    Corzeir likes this.
  19. Ardy
    Offline

    Ardy Approved Artist Approved Artist VPL Member

    Joined:
    Jun 27, 2011
    Messages:
    547
    Likes Received:
    86
    Trophy Points:
    38
    Re: Is it worth creating a petsite anymore.

    Pet sites also rarely are done from the business sides of things.
    As a site owner, do you really think posting a few new items per month + some kind of page refreshing "event" is going to keep/bring in new users? If you want to grow and make money, you have to spend money. If a shoe store didn't want to spend thousands of dollars for new merchandise, remodels, opening new stores, or on advertising then they would see less customers too. If pet sites want to get anywhere they need to start following the example of how the big boys do it. (IE WoW, Maplestory, Neopets, etc.)
  20. Joy
    Offline

    Joy Member VPL Member

    Joined:
    Jan 21, 2011
    Messages:
    2,806
    Likes Received:
    184
    Trophy Points:
    63
    Location:
    US
    Re: Is it worth creating a petsite anymore.

    @Ollie, Turning around and making real chances could help, but the damage is still there. I have yet to see Icepets, Ichumon, or Paladore make any real changes to help their situation. Adding more pets, items, or having events/plots is all fine an dandy, but that's the thing... all petsites do that.

    Being entirely honest, Misticpets is a good site, but there's still a lot of room for improvement there as well.

    I know you think @Lee is doing a "brilliant" job with Paladore. But where is the brilliance? She /may/ be doing a fair job in keeping the site alive, but she has absolutely done nothing to bring back new and old members. When she can take Paladore and turn it into a site that holds over 500+ users online at once, I will then accept your definition of her as "brilliant". You want some advice? Be realistic about your sites situation and consider how to really handle it; other than simply saying you're doing a good enough - or brilliant - job, and calling it a day. Because in this industry today, that's not even enough.
    Corzeir and que like this.
Similar Threads
Forum Title Date
Virtual Pet Information Is Being COPPA compliant worth it? Sep 29, 2013
Virtual Pet Information Have You Ever Failed At Creating A Virtual Pet Site? Mar 14, 2014
Virtual Pet Information Creating A Pet Site Within A $1k Budget? Mar 10, 2014
Virtual Pet Information Creating an economy Jul 15, 2013
Virtual Pet Information Advice to creating a Virtual Pet Site? Apr 18, 2013
Virtual Pet Information Public Pet Game Design Document and Guide to Creating Your Own Dec 4, 2012
Virtual Pet Information How many times have you failed at creating a virtual pet site? Jun 16, 2012
Virtual Pet Information Users creating site items Jun 15, 2012
Virtual Pet Information The legalities of creating/owning/running a pet site! Mar 6, 2012
Virtual Pet Information Thinking about creating an MMORPG, but in text form. Jan 14, 2012
Virtual Pet Information Basics to creating a SIM, and what to start with, ect? Feb 22, 2011
Virtual Pet Information You receive $5,000 to spend on creating your Virtual pet site, how do you spend it? Feb 9, 2011

Share This Page